Do we have to pray about absolutely everything?

Reply to an email from Bonnie Morris....don't worry too much what the question was!!! How many herring can you fit in a kitchen sink ? What's the greatest ladenweight of a piano trailer? Oh, I remember, I was talking how we don't always pray for everything...because if we tried to cover everything...well we'd never sleep and never get on with "the real " next thing God has called us to by His Spirit. So God adds a lot of these "other things " to us.

There's no real rules Bonnie!
When you consider the vastness of the undertaking upon the whole Body....let's look at some
bringing all nations into the obedience of the faith
bringing helps, finance, solutions to the poor downtrodden
bringing healing to every condition on earth
abolishing death
ruling and reigning in every activity
praying constantly without ceasing
studying and by it being approved
training all our senses according to righteousness
being fruitful in every good work...ie...not just doing the good works...but making sure they are so infused with Word and Spirit...they are laden with self replicating potential at all levels that that may imply
Having all wisdom
being fully creative like our Creator Dad
Being as superskilled at reigning in the earth as in the heavenlies and just living the two realities at once with the same ease as Jesus
Lifting up the downtrodden and bruised reed with the same care and Spirit attention as we tear through money changers in religious systems and challenge them back to being Houses of Prayer for all nations....etc etc

And that is just off the top of my head....from a few of the injunctions in the New Testament

Now , apart from running a job and family...yer average member of the Body can really only just about
focus on a handful to a general degree....and maybe only one as LIFE CALLING.

So luckily,Jesus takes the pressure off by simply living His life through us and putting on our hearts the "next thing" that we have to do....
And the rest of the picture HE ADDS TO US according to His righteousness

Or in computer game terms....when you have completed the bit that you have to do in one level, you find the programmers build all that you need for the next themselves and magically add it to you when the first dragon is slain....or when your frog has been able to cross the first road without getting squished!!!

So some are called to focus on healing everything in sight...others just hope God keeps sustaining their health while they focus on what other thing He has them in.

A Fuller Meaning of the Word NAME - Bonnie Morris

   Years ago I studied the meaning of the word NAME and found it to mean both character…, and power.  Since that time, I have heard many describe name as to mean character or nature and I would always say to myself “and power”.  But, I never felt to add  anything to what was said. 

   Today is the time to write about it!  

   To the Hebrews, a name was not a label, or a tool to distinguish one person from another; a person’s name was viewed as equivalent to the person himself.  A person’s name signified their authority as well as their nature. The name also spoke of a person’s will, worth, reputation and ownership. It was not limited to meaning just nature.  But for today’s study, let’s just consider the character and power in a name.  

   Unfortunately, in today‘s western society, it is typical that we use a name as mere designators to distinguish one person from another.  A name does not have much significance to us, and any meaning attached to the name is of no concern and many times, even unknown.  But, it wasn’t so in Bible times.  

   Once we understand this, and that the word NAME has more than one meaning, some things we did not understand in the bible makes more sense and we have opportunity to relate to a much bigger God than we have previously seen.  I hope you will re-new your mind and conclude that NAME contains more meanings than “nature“.

   Let’s use as an example, the name Jacob.  This name means “he who supplants”.  Supplant means to take the place of another.  The power in this name is to deceive and trick others.  This is why  Jacob’s name was changed to Israel after he had seen God face to face.

   

  The name Jesus, means savior.  Often, we read and sing about “the power in the name of Jesus”!  It was his nature and his power that his name depicted, as well as the other things we mentioned.  Jesus name was, what we would call, a true NAME!  The person of Christ was everything his name spoke of!   His nature/character… authority/power, etc.!

   Speaking and writing in “the name” signified authority in bible times. (Exodus 5:23; For since I came to Pharaoh to speak in thy name, he hath done evil to this people; neither hast thou delivered this people at all; 1st Kings 21:8 So she wrote letters in Ahab‘s name, and sealed them with his seal and sent the letters unto the elders and to the nobles that were in his city, dwelling with Naboth).  Ones name also signified their character (Eccl. 7:1a; A good name is better than precious ointment; Matthew 6:9 After this manner pray therefore ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy NAME, meaning His whole person).  Christ is said to have manifested the Father’s name; meaning that He has made His (whole) person (character and authority, etc.)known to humanity (John 17:26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them).

   God is Love… But this name also contains authority…, etc.

   1st Corinthians chapter 13:4-7 gives us the description of the nature or character of God: Love suffers long, and is kind, love envies not, love does not vaunt itself, is not puffed up.  Love does not behave itself unseemly, seeks not her own, is not easily provoked, thinks no evil, does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth, bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.  Love never fails.  

  The authority of God is seen in scripture at many different times, and it does NOT fit into the above category describing love.  

  For instance: Love creates, commands, can be frustrated, gets angry, judges, rebukes, reproves, chastises, has power, etc… all as righteous qualities.  (Not born of the natural, but spiritual) Possibly all of these things would fall into the category of His authority.  But, because His Name also contains His character, He never does any of the aforementioned outside of His nature.  He always acts out of His fullness. He is always motivated by love.  He does not condemn anyone. John 3:18 He that believeth on Him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the NAME of the only begotton Son of God.  We believe in the name for salvation… so why, after salvation, do Christians still feel condemned… Could it be because they do NOT believe in ALL of Him yet?  If so, we could conclude that when one feels condemnation, there is something about Him that is not yet believed.

This brief study opens up an understanding of the meaning of the word NAME.  Passages we may have just passed over can now come alive with insight.  The concept of the word NAME is SO, SO, SO significant in Bible times and yet I know it is hard for us to grasp because of our culture in the Western world. Please let it bring to the forefront of your minds an awareness that God is much bigger than you may have realized and study scriptures that heretofore were missed.  

AND REMEMBER…. Jesus calls a believer HIS BRETHREN.  We carry His NAME… Don’t you want ALL of His NAME to be a part of your experience.

Equal With God - Bonnie Morris

Equal with God
(No Spin)
Bonnie Morris

December 30, 2011
To borrow a phrase: Careful, you are about to enter Thee no Spin Zone… The teaching begins…  right now:
Philippians: 5-6 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God.
In the last article I wrote (“What About This”), I related to you that God answered every question I ever had about Him.  That was so glorious to me.  I knew beyond any doubt that I would never have another question that would be impossible for Him to answer.  I love that about God, because I am a person who questions what I do not understand.   I believe that article came out on 2/18/2011 and I haven’t written since. 
Everyone writes for different reasons.  I write when God reveals something to me.  Thus, this is the first revelation I have had in over 10 months. 
In March of 2011 something began to: ----can I say: “stick in my craw”…  I have a friend who loves it when this happens.  She knows me… she knows God is after something and that He doesn’t let me alone until I get it.  Well, 10 months later, which is now…. I got it!
When something sticks in my craw, I usually begin to notice it, here a little and there a little.  Then eventually, it becomes a full on quest to get to the bottom of it.  I am so thankful for the communication with our heavenly Father through the Holy Spirit.  Without it, I would be very miserable. 
When something begins to “stick in my craw”,  I also know instinctively, that I am hearing something that is off balance and it is usually because there is a spin being put on a scripture.  Now, let me say this…it is not that I like it when this happens (even though my friend does)… because I know a few things that are going to happen.  Number one, I won’t be able to get it off my mind.  Two: sometimes I can get really beside myself…like reaching for something that seems to be just out of grasp.  Then the third thing is wanting to convey it on paper in such a manner so as not to alienate people but help them find the freedom in the truth that found me.  Last, but not least, I have discovered that virtually everything I write, I find myself having the same experience Paul had, happening over and over again.  Some get it and some try to tear it apart.  I never mind questions and comments about what I write, in fact, I invite them, but I think everyone knows the difference in questions and controversy.
So, it is with humility that I shall write again, hoping to straighten out the crooked paths some have in their thoughts if they have struggled with this same spin. 
We’ve often heard the analogy of the ocean when someone is trying to explain our being equal with God.  This is how it goes: Being equal with God is like the ocean; if you take a cup of water out of the ocean, it contains all the components of the ocean”.  Every single time I heard that… I’d get that little nudge that I mentioned.  You know, that thing that would “stick in my craw”… 
What was that…why couldn’t I just agree with it?!!!
And yet, I would try to ignore it.
Another one I heard… “You wanna see God…look at me!  While, I knew there was an element of truth in that, why did it bother me?!  Jesus said, if you see me, you’ve seen the Father.  What was it they were supposed to be looking at, that they were not seeing?  I’ll tell you if you keep reading.
There have been so many times over the last few months that I have been unable to bear witness to many things that have been said concerning “who I really am”.   Equal to God!  Really!   John (my husband) said that he has been trying to find out who he is in Christ and I thought…well, when you find out let me know because it seems that has been a major portion of what is written about and preached about since I have been following Jesus.  Yet, it has somehow been beyond my comprehension.  It has perhaps been because of the spin that is put on the scripture we are studying today.  I say that, because now that the Spirit revealed the truth of this to me… I now know who I am in Christ.  I am the cup of water that came out of the ocean.
Let me explain:
The revelation is all tied up in the word equal.  Vines dictionary says that the rendering “equal with God” was derived from the Latin version and that when they tried to translate it into Greek, there was no adequate mode of representing the exact form and meaning in Greek.  The Revised version says “equality with God” and is of great importance to the right interpretation of the whole passage.  The Amplified bible also enlightens us with this same rendering. 
Equality means to share the same qualities.  Qualities in this context means: Peculiar and essential character: Nature
This equality was enjoyed by the first Adam.  He was in complete fellowship with God.   They shared ALL things common.  Let’s look at the word fellowship.  The word emphasizes what is common between people.  Close association.  No two walk together except they be in agreement.  You may have a close association with someone and disagree on what “equal with God” means.  On this subject then, you would not be in “fellowship”…  Adam lost fellowship with God.  He lost equality with God.  At that point, he was made a little lower than God.  He was not created lower than God…but lost His equality when he didn’t agree to what God said.  His nature changed.  Jesus got that equality back for us.  This equality with God is only possible when we are in unity with Him.  He is the vine and we are the branches.  We are partakers of His divine nature.  We are not God, but we are one; able to love as He loved and serve as Jesus served.  Jesus, knowing he had equality with God, was able to serve God without feeling inferior.  It was not an inferior position, but simply an action performed out of Agape.
Now, maybe the following can help us understand the difference in the God who created the universe, and a person in whom the Spirit of God dwells. 
Basically, In 1^st Cor. 13,  Paul expresses that a person can speak in various tongues, be knowledgeable, understand mysteries, and not have God’s love in him.  This tells us who God is and maybe just as importantly, tells us who He is NOT. He is NOT power,  but He has all power.  He has all knowledge and understanding.  He can be everywhere at once.   He IS Agape/love.  Man is the only thing on earth that is capable of receiving and exchanging this kind of love.   We are a God-being.  We are made in the image and likeness of God.  We are capable of communicating agape/love between ourselves and God. 
So, about the ocean: He is the Ocean.  I am the cup of water that came out of the ocean.  I now understand that what bothered me about the analogy of the ocean.  Every time I heard it, it conveyed the thought that we are exactly like the creator of the universe and could do everything God does.     I could see no meek and lowly of heart in it.  I always had this thought when the ocean concept was mentioned… “but, but, but, the ocean is way more powerful than the cup filled with it’s substance.  I did not believe that I was the ocean in this respect.  And I was right! 
And about those who say “look at me if you want to see God” … What bothered me was they were anything BUT loving.  All I could think was…why can’t I see God when I see them… they wanted me to and it wasn’t as if I didn’t try.
All of these things that Paul expressed, the tongues, the knowledge, the mysteries,… were not what was the best.  Why? Because it wasn’t WHO God is.  It is what He has!  The most excellent of all is Love.  This is who we are in Christ: we are the nature and character of God in Christ.  IN CHRIST; it is when we are IN Christ.  We are not All powerful, we are not all knowing, we are not everywhere at once.  We are not the all powerful, all knowing, omnipresent God.  We are the branches and have total dependence upon the vine. We have delegated authority but it is not mine to use as I will, for it is not by might, nor by power, but by my Spirit says the Lord.  We do what we see the Father do in a co-operative relationship. 
In a lot of circles, power is the focus.  This is what some want to BE.  This is what they aspire to as if a demonstration of power somehow qualifies them as the best and greatest among us.  This is a glass, seen through darkly. How could the disciples have not known the Father by looking at Jesus?  Because they were looking at the power Jesus was demonstrating.  No one will see or know the Father because of power.  Why? Because  God is not power!  God is Agape.  Any demonstration of power is simply a gift to the receiver by the Spirit of God.  I don’t mean to make light of the blessing the gifts have been to the person on the receiving end of them, but it is not the best.  We have seen and used the power.  It is only good.  The problem with this is that this good has gendered  arrogance and idolatry amongst believers.  There is a more “excellent way” to behold and experience.  
Perhaps the writer of John was in the no spin zone. He knew something we need to grasp fully and then conclude that this should be the all important focus of the hour.  John wrote: IF we have love one for another the world will know that God sent Jesus.
         And I dare to say that the power will take care of itself!!!
Give a cup of cold water to those who are thirsty… Let’s demonstrate our equality with God.  Let’s demonstrate who we are!  He is the Ocean!  We are the cup! 
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Bonnie,

I went you to know the inspiration that went all through me as I read your
main point - the difference between what God IS - love - vs. what He has -
power, etc.

I have used the term "equal with God," but I always meant it
heart-to-heart, the equality of deep friendship. I always meant it the way
you have defined it, though, until I read this, I could not have put my
finger on that meaning.

It was that way with Jesus. He never looked or acted "powerful." Anything
that happened, God did, but it came out of the kindness and compassion in
Jesus' heart.

I've always felt an inner revulsion to the power stuff. Not God doing
wonderful things for people, but the strutting. The real things are found
in the cup of cold water, the gentle touch, the kind word. It's when we
"see" rivers of living water flowing through such that we are most like
God.

But this distinction you have made has been central to a growing inner
knowing inside me of who and what God is. He is much different than most
people imagine. I have even stopped looking at omnipotence, etc., because
those things don't seem to be describing Him. Your article makes the
distinction clear for me as well.

Blessings in Him, Daniel Yordy

Revelation 2 : Careful ,Soul of being bought ! Bonnie Morris

Bonnie and John Morris

Book of Revelation: INSPIRED VERSION
By Bonnie Morris

Chapter 2

Preface

   Revelation is written to and about the overcomer. In chapter 1, John saw the beginning and the end of the transformation of the soul.  The rest of the book is a picture of everything in between.
   When the seed of Christ in you begins to sprout, your soul is fragmented; not whole. The work of the Holy Spirit in chapters 2 and 3 is to instruct and correct, beginning the work; to transform your soul into a sound mind: HIS! 
   If you are in this company of sons/servants, you may have made the comment at some point in your life, that you feel you have been through every church mentioned in Chapters 2 and 3.  You may have felt perplexed by this, not understanding at the time, that this is the exact journey planned for your soul.
  To assist in this reading, it is important to understand that, in the biblical sense, death is not cessation of life, but separation of one thing from another.  Also, the number 10 is a “sign word” meaning Divine Order.
  We pointed out that the word “angels” in chapter 1 had reference to the spirit of man.  This word is used to describe man, or Lord, or a supernatural class of beings.  It has to do with one who brings a message.  In the first chapter, as in the second, it is speaking of man or “you”... (enlightened by the Spirit of God).  Remember David said, Oh my soul, why are you disquieted within me.  Your spirit man is the messenger of all things received from the Spirit of God to your soul.  Remember, this is not a translation, but an interpretation that goes to the HEART OF THE MEANING of the revelation of Jesus Christ in you!
   Let the journey of bringing your fragmented soul, together, begin.

JESUS CHRIST UNCOVERED IN YOU

Chapter 2

1. My son... I, John (but not me, it is the Spirit), write concerning your soul! 
   It is Me, the I AM that is in charge! I live in the midst of you and have some things I want to say to you.
2.  (In expressing the growth of your soul),
I see what I’ve accomplished in you.  You have patiently endured grief and sorrow, as you have not been blindly obedient to any one person.  But rather, you correctly judged those in leadership who commend themselves to be fulfilling a position I did not call them to.
3. Through my nature you have endured patiently and at this point, you have not grown weary.
4. This is good, but there is something going on in your soul that is not good.  Our love relationship is no longer growing.  You have permitted your soul man to go back to the carnal works of the flesh.  “Do this, do that... busy, busy, busy,” and you keep everyone’s vineyard but your own. 
5. You knew in the beginning that you could not work for my approval. Repent now and let’s enjoy our communion again.  If you don’t, your soul will lose what little light it has and become darkened.
6. But, like I said, you are to be commended that you do not allow any other person to control what you think. 
7. Overcomers, hear!  Speak to your soul what I AM says!  When you return to me, we shall again have sweet communion in My Spirit that is within you.
8. (Again, expressing the growth of your soul), 
My son... I, John (but not me, it is the Spirit), write concerning your soul! 
   It is Me again; the One who always lives. 
9. I see what I’ve accomplished in you.  I understand the tremendous pressure you are under and the scarcity of material goods you are experiencing, but you are rich when you suffer persecution for righteousness sake.  I know the blasphemer that comes through your carnal mind, posing as Me, and makes accusations about you that are simply not true.
10. Do not fear, for it is necessary that you overcome these horrible thoughts.  Look overcomers, these false accusers can seem to be terrible chains of bondage but this pressure is Divine Order, trying what’s in you.  If you love not your life unto death, you will reign with Me, having my perfect mind and thoughts that bring only life.   
11. Overcomers, hear!  Speak to your soul what I AM says! The actual death of the Adamic man will not be painful.
12. (Again, expressing the growth of your soul), 
My son... I, John (but not me, it is the Spirit), write concerning your soul! 
   It’s Me again; this time I AM showing My quick, and powerful side.  I AM He who judges your thoughts and motives.  All things are exposed to My eyes. 
13. I see what you are doing and how you live out from the highest realm of your carnal thinking, even your pride.  Yet you claim to have my nature and to believe in Jesus.  Everything in your soul that is contrary to the Father, must come to the cross of my faithful witness. 
14. These are the things that are causing error.  You believe fleshly religious teaching.  This is a snare in your soul.  Religion will teach you to be unfaithful to the man you are married to; even the Lord.  It will stir up your affections for Adam, your first husband, but you must know for certain that he is dead.  Flee from this error.
15. In the same way, you believe those religious racketeers who demand they are to protect and control what you think.  This doctrine is a detestable heresy.
16. Don’t believe these things anymore.  If you keep on believing these things, I will have to war against these carnal religious beliefs with the swiftness of my sword and it will cut deeply.
17. Overcomers, hear!  Speak to your soul what I AM says!  Conquer these obstacles and you can feast on the mysteries of God, you will know Jesus in purity and righteousness, and in Him you will have a new nature which no mere man experiences; only those who receive it. 
18. (Again, expressing the growth of your soul), 
My son... I, John (but not me, it is the Spirit), write concerning your soul! 
    It’s Me again!  The visionary Holy One!  My burning passion is towards you.  I AM the One who travelled this path you are on and overcame what you are now going through. 
19. I see what I’ve accomplished in you but the works of your soul far outweigh the things I lead you to do.
20. But in spite of the Godly things we’ve accomplished, I want to talk to you about some things going on in your soul that are not Godly.  You are submitting your thoughts to enticing words that draw you away from pure devotion to Me and My thoughts, unto another who passes herself off as My servant but is, in reality, the mother of harlots. These flattering enticements make you offer sacrifices born of your flesh. ie: (“Must give, should give, have to give!”) This thinking controls and manipulates you.  It causes you to be double minded and creates spiritual perversion.  
21. I’ve been telling you this for awhile and you have not been listening.
22. If you don’t get it, this whore’s children will gang up on you and you will go through the worse battle of your life.  Up until now you have not been afflicted by the keen edge of My Sword. But to produce life in this area of your soul, I will use it.  
23. Every child this mother produces will have to die.  Every thought and every outward work she produces, must die.  They are only bastards, born out of fleshly desires.  This woman will have to keep silent.  Then you will understand that I AM HE that judged and cleansed that which is poisonous to your soul from that which is Godly. 
24. But, here is what I want you to know, the rest of what you have learned is not affected by this; so work with Me on this for now. 
25. And what you have now, claim, until nothing is left but Me.
26. If you’ll do as I say, this beast will be brought to its’ end and you will be given rule over all the fleshly (nations) desires of your soul.
27. And there will be no compromise left in you, as those nations have been thoroughly crushed by the same power source that is in Me. 
28. And you will be given hope of what lies just over the horizon, the Sun of Righteousness, even the fullness found in Me. 
29. Overcomers, hear!  Speak to your soul what I AM says!    
Glossary:  #10 means Divine Order
1. Balaam: Religious Devourer
2. Children: Thoughts and Works of Mother of Harlots
3. Crown of life: Perfect mind
4. Devil: Evil thoughts: Perpetrated by Satan
5. Hidden Manna: Mysteries of God
6. Hold fast: Claim
7. Jezebel: Mother of Harlots – Whore
8. Martyr: Witness
9. Morning Star – Jesus
10. Name: Nature
11. Nations: Flesh driven desires
12. Nicolation: Control of laity
13. Paradise of God: Man/You
14. Prison: Chains
15. Satan’s Seat: Highest realm of carnal thinking
16. Second death: Death of body and fire judgment
17. Tree of Life: Jesus
18. Tried: Judged
19. White Stone: Purity and righteousness of Christ

JESUS CHRIST UNCOVERED IN YOU. Revelation 1- Inspired Version -Bonnie Morris

Book of Revelation: INSPIRED VERSION
By Bonnie Morris

Chapter 1
The symbolic (sign-i-fied) language in the book of
“THE REVELATION” makes it very difficult to understand.
Examples: Church : Woman / Soul
Patmos (taken from the Greek Thayers’ Lexicon):
“My killing” Gives us the idea of pressure upon your life.
It would seem helpful therefore, to have, not a translation, but an
interpretation that goes right to the HEART OF THE MEANING.
We have attempted to do this beginning with the title.
Symbolic words, and a few Greek words
with their meanings, are listed at the end of each chapter.
This book is also a mystery, but not a mystery that you cannot understand. It is a mystery that is revealed to your mind and heart when you are enlightened by God’s Spirit. May this be the Spirit that will cause you to understand that this is a letter to you and about you, the overcomer.
JESUS CHRIST UNCOVERED IN YOU
Chapter 1
1: Jesus Christ is there, just waiting to be uncovered within you. God commissioned Him to fully reveal Himself in the overcomer (the sons of God who are His servants). This is about to happen in you, here a little and there a little, until all is understood. He sent the Prophetic Spirit to John to make this mystery known through the use of signs, pictures and symbols.
2: I John, now write of the vision given to me concerning the Word of God and the Spirit of this Prophecy: that Jesus Christ, Himself in you, is its’ message.
3: When you read this inspired message and understand, (not what your natural ear hears) but what the Spirit reveals, you will indeed remember Gods’ grace, kindness and loving favor. When you guard and tend all that Jesus spoke to John, your experiential relationship with Christ will continue to uncover His life already coded within you, until all is revealed.
4: I John, write to the bond slaves of Jesus Christ. Receive God’s divine rest and influence upon your heart concerning this truth. It comes from the presence of the Holy Spirit, always and forever ruling; the commencement and the consummation.
5: And it also comes from the captain of your salvation, who is the reliable martyr, and the first man to have ever been birthed from the grave clothed in a body of immortal vitality; to ascend to the highest heaven whereby He rules with a creative Spirit to bring into submission all the carnal kings living in your flesh that cannot create life. He loves you continually and died under the condemnation and judgment of your sin. The blood He spilled released you from a continuous course of unrighteousness, to live unto the will of God by creating in you a new heart with the power of His divine life.
6: Now there is a royal, priestly Kingdom seeded within you for God the Father’s complete triumph, glorious and powerful splendor of character to reign forevermore. Let it happen with hearty approval.
7: Look overcomer! He will come more than once; in fact He will always be appearing in your spirit man until everything in you sees Him as the Christ He Is. Then, you will more completely comprehend that your sin pierced Him and become deeply repentant. Let it happen with hearty approval.
8: The Lord said, “I am the first and the last, the Genesis and the Completion, the reality of life, the One who appeared and keeps on appearing”. I AM that I AM!
9. I John, to my elect brethren in the Kingdom of God; Understand, that in Christ, a witness always goes through the same death from pressure that I’m going through when God places you where self can no longer accomplish anything. It is His patience in you that will help you endure it joyfully, because it is for the Word of God and your testimony of Jesus Christ.


10. God propelled me into the heavenlies where I had complete communication with His Spirit in the brilliant fullness of the light of the Lord, and I was able to understand what He was saying.
11. He said, “I am every letter ever written; I am from A to Z. Make it plain to every son. You are about to experience overcoming. All this is happening to you: 1. The things permitted, 2. The suffering / troubles / testings, trials 3. Evil / pride, 4. The affliction you endure 5. The Adamic nature / roots of apostasy, 6. Brotherly love / Preserving will, 7. Your rights / Justice for self!”
12. And I responded, wanting to see who it was that spoke to me. And having responded, I was able to look into God’s work going on in your soul.
13. And in the center of your soul, (like a yolk in the white of an egg) I there is a Spirit like unto Jesus. He is completely dressed in righteousness, ready to supply your soul its’ every need, as a mother would her nursing child.
14. He has nothing but pure thoughts, great wisdom and a burning passion towards you in bringing to pass His vision for the transformation of your soul into His perfect likeness.
15. He travelled a path of testing and trials Himself to win you and speaks with perfect authority, in harmony with the Godhead.
16. In the authority and power of the Holy Spirit, the truth flows from him like the burning intensity of the noon day sun at its’ full brightness.
17. And when I, John beheld Him in all His glory, I was like you will be; Self became as dead! When you behold Him, you will understand that you walked where He walked to become like Him. You know now that you can do nothing in and of yourself to make this happen. But, He will do for you what He did for me. He will give you His authority and power and strength; you will hear what I heard: “Do not be fearful, I am here to help you.18. I have already accomplished what is necessary for you to overcome. I lived; I died and am the resurrection. Yes, I AM! And I have the authority over the carnality in your mind and the grave.”
19. He commanded me to write all this and all the things that will continue to happen during this unveiling of Jesus Christ within you.
20. Understand the secret of what I looked into: The seven stars represent your spirit man and the seven golden candlesticks represent your soul: His processing and completed work done within it.
Glossary:
At the end of chapters 2 – 22, we will only describe terms not already used.
Used to aid in developing terms:
6 Versions of the Bible – Strongs Dictionary – Vines Dictionary – Greek Lexicon – Webster’s Dictionary – And of course the Holy Spirit
The Old Testament types, when understood spiritually, are the best means whereby we can see what is symbolized in Revelation. For instance we understand that in Genesis Eve represents the soul. We can therefore understand that the church (being feminine) also represents the soul; etc.
1. Angels: Your spirit man
2. Church: Soul – Woman
3. Candlesticks: Soul – church (not the light/ but the light bearer)
4. Death: Greek: Hades - Grave
5. Ephesus: Permitted
6. Feet of brass: Purified path
7. Flame of fire: Burning passion
8. Hereafter: Shall continue
9. Hell: Carnal Mind – Bottomless Pit
10. Keys: Authority to open and close
11. Laodicea: Justice for self – Your rights
12. Mystery: Secret
13. Overcomers – Sons of God
14. Paps: Breast (Female side of God) (Priestly ministry)
15. Patmos: My killing – pressure upon the soul
16. Philadelphia: Brotherly love – Persevering will
17. Pergamos: Pride – root of Satan
18. Read: Re add
19. Right Hand: Authority
20. Revelation: Uncover – reveal
21. Sardis: Red – Adamic Nature
22. Saw: Understood
23. Seven: Fullness – Complete – All – Perfection
24. Sign-i-fied: Language of signs and symbols
25. Smyrna: Myrrh – Suffering – tribulation – persecution
26. Sound of many waters: Harmony of all, in the full authority of the Godhead
27. Stars: Spirit of man
28. Thyatira: Affliction
29. Two-edged Sword: Word of God; Truth
30. Vision: Eyes
31. Which was, which is and which is to come: The Commencement and the Conclusion
32. White head and hair: Purity of thought; wisdom

Brian Coatney on Election and Free will. Bonnie Morris on Purpose v. Plan

Election or Freewill , Fish or Fowl -Max Escher

Structure in Romans: the most famous election in history, yours

Posted on June 10, 2011 by Brian Leslie Coatney


Romans 9 brings up many conundrums, and how well I remember my systematic theology studies and the many earnest schemata on the doctrine of election, along with attempts to reconcile them with freedom. I’m already tired just thinking about how tired that made me, and surely one can know the sovereignty of God without undue intricacies.

Let me address freedom for a moment. Freedom is not a quality apart from God that He gives us whereby we make choices; freedom, rather, is the foundation of God’s being, out of which God operates, beginning in the free sea of nothingness and proceeding to His eternal choice to be for others, which is why there is a Cross in the heart of God. Therefore, when God gives us freedom, He cannot give it apart from Himself, for all He can give is Himself, making even freedom a process in God alone, into which we enter and in which we decide whether to unite with the Cross in His heart or to shrink back from the Cross in His heart into a potentiality of misused freedom that God Himself eternally never enters into.

Having said that, let me get started with Romans 9 and lave my opening comments where they are, with the suggestion that any may see a fuller treatment of freedom in The Cross in the Heart of God by Alan Parker. Sylvia Pearce has made this available on her web site theliberatingsecret.org in the reading room there.

Paul no sooner in every way affirms with all passion that nothing can separate us from the love of God than he says that he is willing to be accursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of his countrymen, the Jews. Notice, though, that this is his voluntary depth of love and not a legalistic constraint. Further, Paul does not think this up himself, but it is the full formation of his own son-ship that leads him to say this, meaning that as a son of God in Christ, he has embraced the same Spirit that Jesus did in going to the Cross, in that Paul is willing for Christ to do in him, Paul, as Christ Himself did on our behalf.

Paul is not saying that Christ did not do in totality all required for our salvation. Nothing can add to the blood and body of Christ that saved us, and no other can accomplish that for us. Paul is not suggesting differently; he is mirroring what he says in Colossians where he makes it plain that once someone knows Christ living within, the full measure of that comes out is passion to be used up in an intercessory way whereby Christ continues laying down His life in the world for others, but now he does it by those in whom he is formed in son-ship.

Also, in case readers might think that Paul’s passion for the Gentiles sprang out of disillusionment with the Jews, he tells us how deep and permanently his love in Christ runs for the Jews. His love is no less, no matter how greatly his love for the Gentiles grows. Plainly, though, not many Jews at that time received the Gospel. Numerically, the number of converts from Judaism to Christianity was only a remnant, but this did not indicate failure on the part of the Gospel.

Paul states this in a way similar to his approach in Romans 1 and 2 where he says, “He is a Jew who is one inwardly” (2:29 RSV). Fleshly, external identity does not constitute one’s identity; faith constitutes one’s identity. Further, works, either good or evil, have nothing to do with God’s choice since God’s word to Sarah, and then later to Rebecca, had to do with supernatural birthing, not natural birthing. The argument here is that a son of God, no matter who or when, is a true son by miraculous conception in the Spirit and not merely externally by race.

The outcry of the fleshly mind against this concerns a supposed desire for the preservation of justice. If our good or bad actions do not serve as the defining weights on the scales of justice, then how can life make sense? Wouldn’t the universe be capricious and random? No, because the new birth must be a birth that doesn’t hinge on anything about the human but hinges only on God’s mercy. Why God created those whom He knew would reject Him is His business, and Paul says here that God did this in order to birth offspring who are offspring only by His mercy. He called the Jews by mercy, and He now also calls the Gentiles by mercy.

A huge key to understanding Paul’s thought here depends on seeing that he writes this chapter not as an exercise in systematic theology, but as a passionate apologetic for his ministry to the Gentiles. You see, he tells us about Sarah, and Isaac, and Rebecca, and Jacob, in order to get to a huge point: the GENTILES! He is showing that God all along intended to open the door to those not apparently called, just as He has always, even with the patriarchs, called those apparently not called by birth order, rank, office, power, etc.

Clearly in the Old Testament, the Jews were called, and the Gentiles were not called. Paul affirms this in Ephesians chapters 3 and 4, and he says it was a mystery hidden that the Gentiles would be invited into the family of faith and seen as the elect, and Paul cites Old Testament scriptures down the stretch in Romans 9 to make this very point – that scripture all along indicated really, between the lines, that the nations of the world would be invited into the elect family.

This does not mean that the Jewish nation is now excluded; it means that the non Jewish nations are included, and that Christ fully forms Himself in anyone who receives Him and presses on into son-ship. The Bible does not recognize partial versions of salvation wherein a believer settles merely for going to heaven some day. The all out drive in scripture is for fully developed sons who operate the Father’s business of restoration and dominion in the world.

My point in all of this is to say what Paul’s point is in all of this. He is not expostulating on ideas about election that have to do with calling or not calling individuals according to an abstract plan. God is calling real people to really know Him and be known as sons, to whom He according to mercy establishes them as His friends and heirs. He does this according to faith, and in Paul’s day, God opened up this calling to anyone in whole world who would like to be included. The means is miraculous birthing in the Spirit into the body of Christ and is negotiated by faith alone.

This is what Romans 9 is about.
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Chris writes:
Election and Freewill are sorted out for me , only within Union, this glorious mindblowing thing that God has already declared in Jesus in John 17....and is just as really making it ever more manifest here on planet earth.
Namely,He, the Father, in the Son,making their home in us by the Spirit.
It was always going to be that the eleven brothers were going to bow to Joseph, the other brother. and it worked itself out ever so naturally....despite everything they did to prevent such an outcome. The Joseph community today, that portion of Jew and Gentile who already believe in the Son, by letting the Holy Spirit shape, form and bring to maturity could so easily then be something the remaining 11 Jewish brothers (Israel) might wish to be around. But it won't be a forced thing. it will outwork itself quite naturally.

WHAT ABOUT THIS?
Bonnie Morris
from her Bridgebuilder site

This article is unlike anything I have ever attempted to write. It will address subjects that have been the topic of many heated debates amongst Christian theologians, as well as lay members. After much study and consideration of the schools of thought on both sides of any given issue in different church beliefs, I was always left with many thought provoking questions that were never answered. I was also left without conclusions to things concerning God that I did not believe had to be so elusive. I also did not believe anyone found solid revelations concerning these subjects as there were holes in their concepts which provoked my questioning them. Over the years, I have continued to ask God for the answers to these questions.
In the 1990’s (I don’t remember the particular year), a prophetess pointed to me in a meeting and spoke the following word over me: “Questions, questions, questions!!! God says you have so many questions and He wants you to know that one day you will discover that He has answered every one of them.” That day is TODAY!
The following article is an explanation that has satisfied the quest of my own journey to understand a few things concerning our God. Maybe it will satisfy you too; maybe not. But for me to have spent the major portion of my walk with Christ searching this out, I think it is at least worthy of your consideration.
The Lord shared one key with me that solved every dilemma I had with every subject. SELAH! Pause and think about this a moment. ONE KEY!!! …AND it answered EVERY question? YES! It was like a miracle! All of a sudden nothing contradicted itself. Scriptures that hadn’t made much sense, now made sense. God could be seen! Sometimes in searching for answers, God seemed like He was schizophrenic, saying one thing here and another there. It was simply because I wasn’t seeing clearly. I can see clearly now and the rain is gone. AND to think there it was! ONE KEY to it all. Amazing, simply amazing!!! I am still amazed.
So first, rather than write about the subjects that caused all the questions, I am going to give you the key to answering all of them. This is the key: Properly understanding the difference in two words: PLAN and PURPOSE.

Many will say, “I didn’t know there was a difference in those words. Well, you see, this was my problem too. I didn’t know there was a difference either… until… He whispered it in the ear of my heart. AND… then it took days, weeks, and months for it to sink in and REALLY make the crooked paths straight in so many areas of my thinking. Romans 12:2 Be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind. Remember, it took me years of seeing things incorrectly; it takes time to work the truth fully through one’s thinking to get to where it changes areas of confusion in our souls.
Others will say, “I have always known there is a difference in the words plan and purpose, but I didn’t realize the meanings were so meaningfully different insofar as the interpretation of scripture goes.. Well, let me say this NOW…. IT IS MEANINGFULLY DIFFERENT! It is almost this important: I had heard of Him with the hearing of my ears, but now mine eye doth see!!!
Still others will read this article and say: “I don’t know what the big deal is.” I can only say to that: “then you missed “HEARING” it” May I suggest to you that you read it again. AND again! UNTIL you GET IT.
Some understanding of the difference between plan and purpose can be seen by reading Webster, but not entirely when it comes to relating it to the scriptures. The scripture itself never mentions the word plan. This is a real indication that believers have not understood this as they constantly say “God has a plan…for the gospel…for my life. This is simply not true. WHY isn’t it true? I will give you 4 reasons (for now) why this is simply not true. Now I adjure you to please get past this statement and read the rest of the article because I can just hear religion hitting many of you over the head right now and you are thinking… She’s nuts! It is very interesting how, many times, when we hear something that destroys a sacred cow, at first it oft times comes to our ears as a sacrilegious, heretical or even a blatant lie. This is why we remain teachable or we miss many wonderful truths.
4 reasons why we cannot use the word plan when it comes to God
1. Because God is far more spontaneously creative than He is systemic. In fact, I have discovered that He is so much more spontaneously creative than what we give Him credit for.
2. Our God is a God of relationship. People ask me if I had but one word to describe the Bible, what would that word be and I tell them that I would use the word “RELATIONSHIP”. Plan is not a word that denotes relationship. It denotes FORMULA.
3. Let’s suppose you plan a trip and your plan includes being in Chicago in 3 days. Half way to Chicago your car breaks down and you have to spend 2 days getting it fixed. You now have to change your plan. Many believe God planned for Adam to sin because they cannot reconcile that if He didn’t, then Adam fouled God’s plan up and He had to go to plan B. There was no need for God to go to plan B because there was no plan A. This misinterpretation has so colored God’s nature that it is a shame.
4. The scriptures never use the word plan. I bet only 1 in a million people know this. Check it out in Strong’s!
Now, concerning the word PURPOSE: Purpose is used 36 times in the Bible. Purposed is used 19 times. Purposes is used 5 times and purposeth is used once. 61 times altogether, the various forms of the word purpose is used.
Purpose denotes relationship. It speaks of flexibility, temperance, hope, forgiveness, do over’s, encouragement, love and all other attributes of God’s nature in His relationship with us.
So, in the beginning God purposed!
What was God’s purpose? We all know! He PURPOSED to make man in His image! Not “A” man in His image, but man in His image! I have come to know this about our God. When He purposed to make man in His image, He knew He was capable of accomplishing that purpose, regardless of what man did. Our Almighty, all Powerful, all Knowing God believed in His own ability. He understood something that I have fully come to appreciate about Him; He knows that no matter what decisions man makes, He is capable of working those decisions after the counsel of His own will. AND… His will was to make man in His image.
This point is well brought out in the book called “The Shack”. In the chapter titled “A Meeting of Hearts” on page 189, Mac is having a discussion with God. . Basically Mac has just asked God why He doesn’t get upset with people when they don’t get it right. God states His answer this way: “Let’s say that I (GOD) know it will take you (MAC) 47 situations and events before you will actually hear Me. That is, before you will hear clearly enough, and change. So when you don’t hear me the first time I’m not frustrated, I’m thrilled - only 46 more times to go and that first time, will be the building block to construct a bridge of healing that one day you will walk across.”
Now if God PLANNED to make a man in His image, we have a problem. In these days God is speaking to us by His son Jesus. Jesus was the first one to become perfect or (to be made in the image of God). Made is an interesting word as it speaks of completion. It is very different in it’s concept from the word create. What was it about Jesus becoming the image of God? Well, Jesus always obeyed God. He loved the law. He did always what He saw the Father do. He grew in wisdom and stature. He laid down the last vestige of His own will at Gethsemane and did the Father’s will. Remember Jesus said “nevertheless not as I will but as thou wilt”. (which proves to us that man has his own will to deal with). Although Jesus suffered a great contradiction of sinners and He suffered being tempted, He became perfect. AND…. because He did, there will be many other brethren to follow as a direct result of the obedience of one.
But nonetheless, IF God planned to make man in His image: we have a problem, because just like planning a trip to Chicago, there are several steps you make in getting there. You can’t miss a step without changing your plan. So, God created Adam with a purpose in mind, not a plan. Whoops! Adam disobeyed God!!!. Did God have to change His plan? No! People say that God planned for Adam to fall and that proves He didn’t have to go to plan B. No, God didn’t plan for Adam to fall, and no, He didn’t have to go to plan B because there was no plan A. How ridiculous would it be for a God who has told us that death is an enemy but plan for Adam to fall, knowing the result of falling would be death. Is God therefore our enemy? See the problem with that!!! It is schizophrenic thinking, and a double minded man you do not want to be.
But, seeing clearly, we know that when Adam fell, it did not change the purpose of God. No matter what choice Adam made, God was more than capable of working it after the counsel of His own will and not lose His own integrity in the situation. He is beautiful for situations. Remember “The Shack”!!!
So, did it matter what Adam decided. NO! Not to God! He remained in control. When Adam made the wrong choice, God never lost control; He simply worked Adam’s choice and resulting action after the counsel of His own will. You can choose, but God controls you on the basis of your choice. YES, He gave you a choice!!! Some believers argue that you do not have a choice. HOW SILLY! Now, there is no choice that is made without influence, as that would be impossible and still live in an environment. But two people can be in the exact same environment and make different choices. Choices are based on what is in the heart. Does God want you to commit adultery? No, so we can also safely say that God’s will is not always done in the earth AND YET… God remains in control no matter what choice you make. He said, “I lay before you life and death, choose life”. It is ridiculous to think you have no choice. When you choose life, God responds one way and He responds quite another way if you choose death. He is so spontaneously creative. This is balance folks.
So, did God need sin to make man in His image? Jesus is the example. No, God did not need sin to make man in His image. God only needed the law. The law is the knowledge of good and evil.
How do I know that God did not need sin to fulfill His purpose? Because Jesus never sinned. However, the law was present to obey and in Christ’s obedience He became perfect. Would God give us a law that could not be kept? NO! Jesus proved that. Remember, he was fully man. The law was never kept by another because no one else wanted to keep it. It wasn’t that man Couldn’t, it was that he Wouldn’t!!! The law never made anyone sin; it merely EXPOSED sin that was already there. The law was made to be kept. We have heard the old saying that rules were made to be broken. NO, a 1000 times NO! Rules are made to be kept. May I suggest you obey the speed limit. This law was made to be kept! But, to the point: What kind of Father would tell his child to do something that he KNEW he Couldn’t do? Sadistic! God has gotten so much blame for things He was not responsible for. This reminds me of another situation that came up in “The Shack”. Mac is talking to God and it wasn’t long before it was pointed out that Mac liked Jesus more than God. Mac went to Jesus for forgiveness because he saw Jesus as gracious and when he didn’t want to tell God why he couldn‘t go to Him for forgiveness, he stammered…. so God said what was in his heart:…… “because I’m mean“? The story continues by God pointing out how strange this is because Jesus came to show people who HE (God) is. God says: “They are still playing us as good cop - bad cop.
This is so the truth! When man wants to control someone, He points to God as stern but when man needs forgiveness he goes to Jesus. How sick is that? So many things have been said about God, that if these same things were said of a natural man, that man would be put in jail. I, for one, have set my heart to reveal the true and living God in whom there is no variableness nor shadow of turning. God is love!
When you understand the difference in the meanings of the words plan and purpose, predestination is no longer a debatable issue either.. Of course God predestinated us. When you consider God KNEW He was powerful enough to bring about His purpose, predestination makes sense. God believed in Himself so He knew His purpose would come to pass! … AND… He didn’t need a formula to make it happen. He only needed Himself. But how beautiful to serve a God who is big enough to allow us our choice and work with us to become that which He purposed. My husband always says it takes a bigger man to give you a choice than it does to simply control your every move. God is big, but more than that, He is so beautiful; how marvelous are His works.
What does all this mean?
1. It means you are not a robot.
2. It means you have a choice.
3. It means God never loses the control of man or the earth.
4. It means we’re in a working relationship with a God who loves us
5. It means man is responsible for his own actions. You can make
it hard on yourself, or easy on yourself, but you WILL be
conformed to the image of God. Remember, He is making MAN
in His image…not “A” man. His purpose will be done. SELAH!
6. It means God took the responsibility to get us out of the jam we
put ourselves in.
7. It means that God’s will is not always done.
8. It means that man has a will of his own.
9. It means God never planned for us to yield to evil.
10. It means God is spontaneously creative and purpose driven.
11. It means that the law does not cause you to sin but merely
exposes sin that already exists.
12. It means that God works all things after the counsel of His own
will while still allowing man the freedom of relating to and
influencing Him.
13.. It means predestination is simple to understand.
14. It means CHOICES are VERY important.
AND
While it means other things, this is a beginning of a beautiful understanding on simple things that man’s complex mind has spun for far too long. We see that the simpler you get, the closer you are to understanding God.
I am so surprised at how many believers I have heard say that God is in control and so He’s responsible for man’s actions. This indicates to me that there are people who do not want to accept responsibility for their choices. They want to blame someone else. Doesn’t that remind you of ADAM?!!!
However, we are so blessed because God took the responsibility to get us out of the ultimate consequences of our choices: ie: DEATH!!!
God said: Because YOU have done this… He did not say: because I made you do this.
My purpose in the rest of this article is to share something that has caused many to misinterpret experiences.
First, we understand that experiences should never be used to establish doctrine or, heaven forbid, His nature. How many times have we heard someone share an experience they had with God and then turn around and think that everyone else has to do what they did to find the freedom they found in any given area of their life? Or my favorite example of making doctrines out of things, is all the “HOW TO BOOKS”. on spiritual matters. Specifically, I would mention the book “7 Steps to Receive the Holy Spirit”. Thank God I had already received Him when I happened across this book because I might have fallen into the trap of following the proper steps as I now know others have. Then some wind up not receiving what they think they are believing God for; they blame themselves and think they are not good enough for Him. We have all thought some of these same kind of crazy things. After reading “7 Steps to Receive the Holy Spirit, I realized I had missed every single step. How ridiculous are these “HAVE TO“ steps!!! Again, it’s just another plan of man and his own idea of God.
Experiences that are misinterpreted bring us lots of comfort words. Words that comfort from misinterpretations are lies. These lies have established far too many false ideas of God. Permit me to give you an example of something that happened in my life, in the past 18 months, that so drove this home to me that I can see this very plainly now.
God wanted me to help 2 different people. I started to help one of them but my heart was following after the other. I passed that off with my own reasoning, thinking… “well, I can help her next year,” as helping each one required a goodly sum of money so I couldn‘t help them both at once. I now know the tugging in my heart was God, and I missed it. Now this caused me 18 months of frustration. Ultimately God had his way, but it caused a lot of unnecessary pain and suffering for me, as well as others.

After this whole experience was over, three times my husband said: “Oh well Bon, it was just God’s timing”… The 3rd time he said that, I heard the Holy Spirit say (very firmly), “NO MAN KNOWS THE TIMING”.
Now, I normally would have comforted myself with the words it was just God’s timing. I’m sure I’ve done that in the past. AND… when I did, I learned nothing. I falsely comforted myself and left a trail of hurts behind. Here was the lesson: DON’T BLAME GOD,… TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS,… JUST PLAIN FORGET THE WORDS: GOD’S TIMING (THEY DO NOTHING BUT DECEIVE US)… and FINALLY,… HEAR AND OBEY.
So now, even though I understand today, that God in His patience, let’s us go even 47 times to get it right… there is something to be said for growing to the place where we hear and obey the first time. Life would be so much simpler. It is where we want to be and I am assured because of His wondrous grace, one day we will walk there. It is how Jesus walked and one day we will see Him face to face for we shall be like Him. This would mean we have learned to hear the first time He speaks, and then obey. Obviously, He is not condemning us when we don’t, but I hear Him saying “Come up hither”.
There are so many more examples I could give you of comfort words, but I just hope this one little example is enough to get you to examine your experiences a little more closely and make sure you are not falsely comforting yourself. I can say this: when I had the truth on this one little experience, it made me feel so much better to repent than to remain in a state of self-justification. It made Him big and caused me to see His love shine forth. It caused me to grow by leaps and bounds in the past few months. I am blessed!
After the understanding of plan and purpose came to me, I spent months challenging myself every time I said plan, to change it to purpose. Every time I heard the word plan, I would make the comparison of the 2 words. It was an exciting trip. It strengthened my relationship with God. Let me suggest politely, that you try the same thing. What do you have to lose?
Blessings be upon you. Experience the peace and rest that the knowledge of God brings. Believe in God the way He believes in Himself, for you ARE His purpose.
The Shack can be purchased at Amazon.com and most book stores.
I also want to thank Carol Holstrom for the research she did on this article.

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More related material here

Experiencing Love - Bonnie Morris and The Wave of Pure Light -Annie Schissler

Picture taken near Alton after tuning. On a Blackberry Curve mobile.

Experiencing Love
first appeared here
by Bonnie Morris

BRETHREN,

This moment in time is like no other. We have never been here until now, so what I write feels like what I can imagine the New Testament writers felt while penning their epistles. Ideas of love and law expressed in their experience in the Old Testament were so different than what was appearing on the scene during the fullness of Pentecost. (Yet, while this new thing has now had time to stir in our midst, there has still been this knowing sense of... in and out of grace; in and out of fellowship with God; in and out of the Spirit, etc...) But something had definitely changed for them! The writers were seeing something different in the 2nd heaven. They could not refer to their Greek literature or the Septuagint for understanding because it was not previously known.
So when the Spirit of Revelation began processing love and law differently to them, I’m sure they felt like they were in uncharted waters. So it is with this same sense that I am trying to pen what I perceive and am experiencing: “Love in the 3rd heaven”! I know that God doesn’t work in dark corners, so I am sure others are hearing some of the same kind of things. I just haven’t read or heard some of what I write herein. So, please, set aside your dictionaries and concordances. You are not going to find this there. Just listen and hear what the Spirit is saying. This is not something anyone will be taught. It can only be caught.


So, please don’t be too hard on me. I am pressing in every day to SEE what we can possibly see. I believe we are tapping into some of the things that Paul said he saw in the 3rd heaven. In the realm Paul lived in here, this 3rd heaven was unspeakable... BUT ... full of glory!

I have hidden away these past few months and so much has been given to me concerning Love, but I want to constrain myself to write just an introduction on this subject and keep it brief.

I am specifically writing this to the brethren who already understand that there are three realms of Spirit or heavens so if you are reading this article and do not understand this, questions may be directed to:

http://www.dyordy.com/Morris/ABridgeBuilder.html

Other articles that expound on this subject will also be posted on this same site soon.

Your friend, Bonnie


EXPERIENCING LOVE in the 3rd HEAVEN

(Heaven: A realm of Spirit)

This law is not a dead letter but a living relationship law that embodies Christ’s own character and life and is all inclusive in His sermon on the mount. He is the “LIVING” (verb) sermon. Please read Matthew 5:1-12. The amplified version is awesome here. Notice everything as a verb! You can see by what you read, it is all about relationship.

John 1:1 In the beginning the Word was God and the Word was with God. This too speaks of relationship, showing us Who He Is: “I Am that I Am”! There was action going on; a discourse taking place; an interacting exchange of ideas. This was also demonstrated in the words: “Let us make man in our image.” This image is a living image; this image is Love, denoting relationship.

Love fulfills the law that condemns. While experiencing love in the 2nd realm was far greater than anything experienced in the law, it also created some heartache. When we read (past tense) the rest of Matthew 5, we put ourselves in an even greater bondage trying to “DO” what it says because somehow we thought it was explaining a “Higher Law”; a holier standard to keep and then the expectations got even greater. If it were somehow a Higher Law or standard to keep, it would only spawn greater bondage. The point Jesus was making was this: (You will recall He was speaking to Old Testament Saints who were puffed up in their law.) Romans 2:17 – Behold, thou art called a Jew and rest in the law, and makest thy boast of God.

Paul even said of himself: “Touching the righteousness which is in the law, BLAMELESS”. Outwardly, he did it...Jesus was explaining the true depth in meaning of the Old Testament law. He exposed how full of sin they truly were. The way they always perceived it gave them cause to glory in themselves. The scriptures in Matthew 5:12-48 have not been understood in its context! Thus, we see one of the reasons the beat has continued to go on and on and the controversies, backbiting, debate, competition, expectations and “do every thing right attitude” has continued to prevail in this realm. Please read the rest of Matthew 5. See what I mean? In the 2nd realm, we still continued to try to “DO” all these things, not understanding that Love (God) fulfills all these things. We even “TRIED” to perform the love mentioned here. How sad is that!!!

In the 3rd heaven there is no need of a standard that causes expectations in performance. There is no debate in realm 3. There is no competition here. All these things are finally understood as temporal and without spirituality. The only race that was ever spiritual in the first two realms was the race we faced with ourselves to win over our carnal mind. Scripture says that men who compare themselves among themselves are not wise. Love in the 3rd realm demonstrates the relationship of the brethren as “The Word was God and the Word was with God”. I had so much to overcome to hear the word of the Lord on this because I was raised in a home with 5 siblings. We were bowlers. All I knew was competition and debate. From the time we were very, very little, we were taught this.

I can just see Love wiping His brow saying: “Finally, you believe at last”. He’s also singing: “AT LAST MY LOVE HAS COME ALONG”. (HA!) (I have many, many, many to thank, who, along the way, painted on the canvas of my heart. This painting brought me to my present day relationship with Love. Mostly, I thank Love who so patiently guided me.

So, progressing ones... Love in the 3rd realm means shedding the old light! When the light in us has become darkness, oh how great is that darkness!!! To try to keep eating from that which has become dark... is a real killer!



2.The Law of the Spirit of Life:
Romans 8:2 – For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death!


This is the animated or living law, by which the Holy Spirit is the Imparter of revelation. You can easily see relationship here by your own experience. Holy Spirit comes to uncover Love and continues to reveal and reveal and reveal Love to us. Holy Spirit is ever close and personal! Holy Spirit is not called “The Comforter” for naught. The reference to Him as Comforter further indicates relationship. Holy Spirit brings and attends every word that proceeds out of the mouth of Love, albeit compassion or revelation. This law brings us into each dimension of relationship and freedom.


3.The Royal Law:
James 2:8a – If you fulfill the Royal law according to the scripture ...

This living relationship law is Royal in the majesty of its greatness of character, out of which, if it did not exist, neither would the other 2 that we are considering here. This is the law of Love: Every attribute or virtue of God’s nature! This is the nature that Governs by serving others. This Royal, governing nature denotes a submissive relationship amongst the brethren in the 3rd heaven. (Submit ye, one to another out of respect for God) There is complete union here. This Love is a verb. This Love is always a verb. This Love has always been a verb, but in the first 2 heavens, we could not see it, but it is the same Love in all realms. When the 3rd heaven fully comes, the I Am that I Am will have brethren who clearly see True and Living Love. Love will have brethren who engage in interaction perfectly. Not only with Him, but with each other! Love will have brethren who have the ability to lift. Love will have brethren who echo: “I do only what I see my Father do!” This brethren, will see His full image in one another because they know Love fully. Love will fully manifest as a verb. AND..... then the world will know that God sent Jesus!


This is my experience. This is not a set of facts. This experience came by way of relationship. Freedom??? It will become full.


DO YOU HEAR HIM SINGING?





“AT LAST....MY LOVE HAS COME ALONG”

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The Wave of Pure Light - written here in 2006

Picture taken near Alton after tuning. Blackberry Curve

Annie Schissler - Ed Miller's daughter

While being just dedicated to love and worship Him again, He snatched me towards the spheres of light. When He received me in His presence, He invariably does it with those ineffable words that bring such peace and so deep security; He tells me: ‘DO NOT BE AFRAID’.

I know that I would not be able to enter His Cloud of Glory if He did not give breath to me with His greeting, since the reaction that provokes the taking part in so high spheres of glory and holiness is tremendously overwhelming. He has to protect me from the effects of such grandeur and refulgence, for if it were not in this way, I would be devastated and I would not be able to stand it. He also covers me in His Cloud when He shows me His operations for this hour.

With tremendous strength and demonstration of purpose, The Lord talked to me about a great “now” when He would be gathering multitude of souls. In contrast with His chosen in whom He had been performing a profound work, this new operation would be carried out in a completely exposed way and with great clarity.

God showed me a new and extraordinary wave of heavenly pure light and life that He is accumulating to prepare the manifestation of the Great Harvest,that will develop underneath the storm of evil which is forming. He told me that He would not wait or retain this wave anymore, but that He would proceed to manifest it because His great “now” had come. While being released by Him, it would flow over the earth, returning multitudes of souls to the fold.

This new wave, full of powers and forces of light and life, was His instrument and had a double function: one opened as the incision of a sharp sword, and the other penetrated and went through beyond all defense and accomplished what God had proposed.

More about the wave of light In this new occasion The Lord told me: “you will see now”, and immediately I looked and I saw a new and mighty pure wave of power that had began to work under that terrible storm of darkness of evil and persecution. While the storm of darkness still followed its course, this new wave of so pure light and life that had been prepared for this hour, suddenly started to expand in an explosive and magnificent way.

He showed me how this new wave operated: there were like gigantic arms that collected in an increasing scale countless multitudes of souls for Christ. In amazing operations of God, in great power and strength, thousands and millions were taken for Him.

However, there were differences between the levels and conditions of these souls that the wave of light had reaped regarding the elect ones who walked above the storm. The elect ones were obviously superior in development and light, but despite their inferior condition, the souls that gathered under the storm were more numerous and were equally precious to the Lord and He was especially interested in the harvest of this multitudes. With great joy and power He was intensively working to fulfill this.

The inferior condition of the new ones was detectable not by their appearance, but by their relationship with God. Those who walked above the storm had a very intimate relationship with Him, characterized by a great intensity, as if they were linked with the same fires and torrents of the divine nature.

When the new ones took abundant blessings from God, it was due to the fact that they rebounded from His chosen ones. The blessing of one had an impact as a blessing for another one.

Clearly the operation of God in this wave of light developed in the chosen ones through the purity and the holiness. This wave of pure light was working in the midst of great darkness underneath the storm. He showed me a especially terrible and gloomy area that offered no promise, where the wave had not reached yet.

Then He made me see that this light would expand in places where it had never been before and where the darkness had reigned without opposition. These places were many and were awaiting the manifestation of this work.

He said that He would take this marvelous wave of light and life to a certain state of development - up to the same threshold of its explosion. Although He desired this wave to burst in in this explosive force of purity, something was still missing for this to happen. The moment of the explosion would be precipitated and lit by the elect ones who were above the storm.

Each one of them individually, had to open as if it were a door inside them and they also had to enter an even higher place of communication with Christ, which at the same time, would open their inner doors to the manifestation in great power of this force of light.

While opening these doors, that great wave of light would pass through them and would start to accomplish its purposes and works over the land of the final harvest. Although this wave, full of extreme power and force to the reaping, would gather multitudes, it would however gradual and progressively advance, taking its territory as long as the chosen ones moved forward and opened the doors to the new ones.

The ones who were under the storm, though they received great provision of light and life that God shed, nonetheless they were allowed to be moved, shaken and buffeted. However, through this, it would be provided the way in which the Lord would mold, transform and develop them. On the contrary, those who were above the storm of darkness, that is, the elect ones could not be shaken as they were rooted and asserted in their relationship with Christ

He told me that these sons that would give way to this new wave, must be extremely purified. This purification is of fundamental importance, not only for themselves, but also for these new ones that will be gathered. This high, complete purification of the elect ones is equivalent to the opening of the doors inside them that will rebound in a force of great life and light to those thousands that are still in darkness.